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I would be remiss not to throw Masakazu Yoshizawa 's name in the hat. Besides being a master shakuhachi player, Masa was also an excellent symphonic clarinetist. He played various other flutes, saxophone, and percussion as well. His group, Kokin Gumi, means old and new ( I think), played traditional Japanese music as well as Masa's original compositions. Because of his deep knowledge of Japanese traditional music his compositions are extensions of tradition rather than departures from tradition. Masa played on a number movies including The Joy Luck Club, Jurassic Park, Memoirs of a Geisha and many others. Masa was all about blending east and west. His gigs ranged from featured soloist with the London Symphony to The Toshiko Akioshi Big Band's farewell gig at Carnegie Hall. His discography speaks for itself.
It is with pride and honor that I submit his name for consideration.
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Masa on stage in Little Tokyo, Los Angeles. Happy day, Jim.
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Thanks for the cool picture, Chris! That sure is the Masa I remember.
I wish I had the computer chops to put up the sound sample of Masa'a "Immortality" C.D. Track # 6 "A Flock of Clouds". For all you big Jinashi freaks, it is Masa playing his homemade 3.75. He had to play the bottom hole with his right heel. He recorded this about 5 days before he passed. They propped him up in a chair with pillows because he was too bony to sit in a chair without pillows, messaged his feet every 15 minutes to cool out the edema and still, he played his ass off. Masa's drive to make music was second to none.
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I saw that flute at his house. It was very nice. Why don't you send the mp3 to Ken and he can figure out how to post it? Sure we'd all like to hear that.
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Tairaku wrote:
I saw that flute at his house. It was very nice. Why don't you send the mp3 to Ken and he can figure out how to post it? Sure we'd all like to hear that.
O.K. It might take me some time to figure out but it will happen. If worst comes to worst, I'll ask my wife for help.
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What about the flute in the photo that Chris posted....length? jinashi? and it looks like its non-root end, right?
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That flute appears to be a shaved root end?
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waryr wrote:
That flute appears to be a shaved root end?
Yeah, I'm kind of curious about shaved root end flutes. Is it just a different look or does it result in a different sound as well?
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The flute in the photo is a Jinari 1.8 root end. In can't see that shaving makes any difference in the sound. Someone may disagree.
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No difference in sound. It just slides in and out of the bag with less resistance...
A flute can be made with near rootend stock that has the right bore profile, and performs wonderfully.
Seeing that picture of Masa playing on a warm sunny day and being in the moment, makes me happy to see. Thank you so much for bringing him to the awareness to those of us new to the greater world of the shakuhachi!
This Universal Flute section is wonderful!
PS: Looking forward to an mp3 although I will break out the movies in question and have a closer listen to the music!
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Taldaran wrote:
No difference in sound. It just slides in and out of the bag with less resistance...
A flute can be made with near rootend stock that has the right bore profile, and performs wonderfully.
@ Jim and Taldaran: thanks for explaining that.
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I just emailed a Mp3 of the Flock of Clouds to Brian and Ken. (I'm locked out of my server.)
Jim, who made Masa's 1.8? Some very famous guy who I never heard of, or can't remember, I know. -- I had the opportunity to attempt to play it a year or so ago. It is the flattest oval I've ever seen on the mouthpiece end. I really had to ride it high on my lower lip in order to get it to sound for me.
As for shaved roots? The major thing, I think, is the root choke point inside the bore, where the bore tapers the most ... and then, maybe, the reverse taper in the rest of the root bell area. The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
The 3.75 that Masa made was this incredibly wide piece of timber bamboo. His entire chin sank into the utaguchi end when he played it for me. It did not have a root end, per se, so Masa doubled up the thickness in the root area by gluing an even wider cuff of bamboo over the main shaft of the flute. I'm not sure what that did except maybe provide a small shelf for his foot to rest upon when his heel wasn't covering the Tsu hole!
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Chris Moran wrote:
The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
Chris, Toby seems to have quite competently laid this sort of nonsense to rest months ago. There is absolutely no scientific way that you
can test this sort of conjecture. My Ichijo 1.8 has a very resonant Ro, and it ain't shaved at all. Whatever does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Chris Moran wrote:
I just emailed a Mp3 of the Flock of Clouds to Brian and Ken. (I'm locked out of my server.)
Jim, who made Masa's 1.8? Some very famous guy who I never heard of, or can't remember, I know. -- I had the opportunity to attempt to play it a year or so ago. It is the flattest oval I've ever seen on the mouthpiece end. I really had to ride it high on my lower lip in order to get it to sound for me.
As for shaved roots? The major thing, I think, is the root choke point inside the bore, where the bore tapers the most ... and then, maybe, the reverse taper in the rest of the root bell area. The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
The 3.75 that Masa made was this incredibly wide piece of timber bamboo. His entire chin sank into the utaguchi end when he played it for me. It did not have a root end, per se, so Masa doubled up the thickness in the root area by gluing an even wider cuff of bamboo over the main shaft of the flute. I'm not sure what that did except maybe provide a small shelf for his foot to rest upon when his heel wasn't covering the Tsu hole!
Thanks Chris. You sped things up quite a bit. We just switched from a pc to a mac and now know even less about how to do that. I was thinking you might be of assistance.
Bruce J. would have all the poop on Masa's 1.8. (Bruce- are you eavesdropping?). I couldn't play it either except one time I picked up and it sang like a bird.
As far as the attachment on the end of his 3.75 goes, I think that was added for length rather than thickness. I don't buy that the thickness of the bell has any affect on the sound at all. How the flute came into being is a story that reveals a lot about Masa's work ethic. John Williams had written a part for him in Jurassic Park that was way too low. An easy fix. It happens all the time. You tell the composer - he says take it up an octave. Case closed. Not Masa. He went home, stayed up all night and made a shakuhachi from a piece of bamboo he had been saving to make a rain stick and showed up the next day with a shakuhachi that could play the part as written. I can't think of another human being that would do that. There was no reverse in Masa's transmission. He was all straight ahead Ned.
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edosan wrote:
Chris Moran wrote:
The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
Chris, Toby seems to have quite competently laid this sort of nonsense to rest months ago. There is absolutely no scientific way that you
can test this sort of conjecture. My Ichijo 1.8 has a very resonant Ro, and it ain't shaved at all. Whatever does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Axshully my point was that the shaving of the root didn't seem to have any _negative_ effect on the resonance of the Ro. It was worded ambiguously, at best. So, I agree with Toby on this one.
It may be The End of the World.
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Chris Moran wrote:
So, I agree with Toby on this one.
It may be The End of the World.
Don't get discouraged Chris. There'll be plenty to fight about later.
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Jim Thompson wrote:
As far as the attachment on the end of his 3.75 goes, I think that was added for length rather than thickness.
Okay. It's just that Masa used to make fun of any non-root flute or 6-node flute that I would show up with. Mercilessly. Mercilessly. Mercilessly.
I must be projecting.
Jim Thompson wrote:
He went home, stayed up all night and made a shakuhachi from a piece of bamboo he had been saving to make a rain stick and showed up the next day with a shakuhachi that could play the part as written.
The story he told me about making the utaguchi was that instead of cutting it, he dragged the huge end of that bamboo on the asphalt and concrete of his driveway until he got the angle and depth he was looking for. He said it made a "terrible noise" and that his neighbors complained. Now I see that if he was doing this in the middle of the night why his neighbors would have complained.
Such stories.
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edosan wrote:
Chris Moran wrote:
The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
Chris, Toby seems to have quite competently laid this sort of nonsense to rest months ago. There is absolutely no scientific way that you
can test this sort of conjecture. My Ichijo 1.8 has a very resonant Ro, and it ain't shaved at all. Whatever does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
This is getting to be like being on a forum with the Odd Couple!
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Tairaku wrote:
edosan wrote:
Chris Moran wrote:
The thickness of the bamboo has some effect, I just do not know how noticeable it is to the sound in the hands of an experienced player. The end of my shakuhachi is shaved root and it has a very resonant Ro.
Chris, Toby seems to have quite competently laid this sort of nonsense to rest months ago. There is absolutely no scientific way that you
can test this sort of conjecture. My Ichijo 1.8 has a very resonant Ro, and it ain't shaved at all. Whatever does that have to do with the price of tea in China?This is getting to be like being on a forum with the Odd Couple!
No, just with the Odd Fella.
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Thank you Chris and Ken for your kind assistance.
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Jim Thompson wrote:
Thank you Chris and Ken for your kind assistance.
Yes, thanks. Damn, I love that album. Such a wonderful collaboration and gathering around this dieing musician.
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"A Flock of Clouds"
What a gorgeous piece!
thanks for posting it up Ken.
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Very nice! Is he playing all the instruments?
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Sid Page is playing the fiddle and I would suspect the synth or recorded space/wind sounds were supplied by producer Dr. Osamu Kitajima. Kitajima also produced Masa's very first C.D. (tape actually)- Kyori.
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