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#1 2009-05-04 18:54:21

Taldaran
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From: Everett, Washington-USA
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Have you ever found that...

People come up to you when you are playing your wider bore, long shakuhachi, and they say, "That sounds nice! is that a Didgeridoo?".

If you nicely tell them it is a shakuhachi japanese flute, they roll their eyes and say, "well it sounds just like a didgeridoo".

At first I just want to correct them, and then I just shrug my shoulders, thank them anyway and continue to play.

And yes Brian, I'm sure you get that more than most...


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#2 2009-05-04 20:28:59

Lodro
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Re: Have you ever found that...

Well the didgeridu and shakuhachi do have more than a few things in common, but I reckon the sound isn't particularly one of them! Except for maybe one of those bigger ones, which is what you were referring to (sorry my shakuhachi lingo isn't fully developed yet). But even then the tonal qualities aren't too similar, to me anyway. I guess however that the cultural reasoning for the two instruments does have similarities - both were/are used as a tool to express an intrinsic association between the human spirit and the religious belief of that particular culture, and to lessen the gap between the player/audience and that particular 'divine' aspect being sought after. But then that can be said of many instruments, particularly voice. Maybe the better one gets at it the more similarities will be perceived! (Sorry gone off track a tad here). But also there's the whole 'familiarity' perspective thing happening. The 'un-trained' ear can have less of an ability to distinguish between sounds that are somewhat similar. Most musicians tend not to have this problem (if it could be termed as a problem) as they are forever consciously listening to sound and subtleties of sound.

(For interest only - Didjeridu fact no. 1, the didjeridu is not intrinsic to all of Indigenous Australia and its origin is not from within central Australia despite common belief)


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#3 2009-05-04 20:50:53

Jim Thompson
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Re: Have you ever found that...

Taldaran wrote:

People come up to you when you are playing your wider bore, long shakuhachi, and they say, "That sounds nice! is that a Didgeridoo?".

If you nicely tell them it is a shakuhachi japanese flute, they roll their eyes and say, "well it sounds just like a didgeridoo".

At first I just want to correct them, and then I just shrug my shoulders, thank them anyway and continue to play.

And yes Brian, I'm sure you get that more than most...

It just goes to prove an old cynical music business axiom that is too often true, "People hear with their eyes."


" Who do you trust , me or your own eyes?" - Groucho Marx

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#4 2009-05-04 20:59:35

ABRAXAS
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Re: Have you ever found that...

A friend of mine, the only other person I know locally who plays shakuhachi, had the police called on him for playing in the park. Apparently someone saw him from the distance and didn't know what he was doing.

The police arrived and, on examining his shakuhachi, said "What's this, some kind of BONG?"

Fortunately the responding officer had just enough IQ to understand, after explanation, that it was a musical instrument and not drug paraphernalia.

Their only excuse is that 2 out of 3 people you encounter in Daytona, especially in a park, are drug addicts or alcoholics.


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#5 2009-05-04 22:40:44

edosan
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Re: Have you ever found that...

ABRAXAS wrote:

A friend of mine, the only other person I know locally who plays shakuhachi, had the police called on him for playing in the park. Apparently someone saw him from the distance and didn't know what he was doing.

The police arrived and, on examining his shakuhachi, said "What's this, some kind of BONG?"

Fortunately the responding officer had just enough IQ to understand, after explanation, that it was a musical instrument and not drug paraphernalia.

Their only excuse is that 2 out of 3 people you encounter in Daytona, especially in a park, are drug addicts or alcoholics.

Well, a shakuhachi DOES look very much like a giant chillum. Perhaps the cop was actually pretty hip. Don't be so quick to judge smile.

          http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1920/chillum03.jpg


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#6 2009-05-04 22:53:47

Lodro
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From: Australia
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Re: Have you ever found that...

yep, metal forum gone wrong wink


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#7 2009-05-04 23:17:01

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: Have you ever found that...

Yes it happens and it's even worse now that I'm in Oz.

But the worst thing is when Kurahashi brought shakuhachi into the Japanese schools and asked the kids if they knew where it came from. Only one kid raised his hand and said, "Australia."


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#8 2009-05-04 23:24:44

Lodro
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Re: Have you ever found that...

Tairaku wrote:

Only one kid raised his hand and said, "Australia."

Maybe the kid's getting the word Shakuhachi confused with Kadatchi!


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